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Hey guys, I'm new here so I won't bore with the backstory too much. Got my h2 2016 from a dealer new about 6 weeks ago now in Aus (it was old stock but brand new). Love the bike, it's a beast. Can pop power wheelies which I've never done before in my 8yr riding history as wasn't really into doing it but the wheelie control on Ktrc setting 2 allowed enough for fun but not too much. Even let a mate who used to race bikes ride it and he loved every second of it and said much the same as I did.

Now to the interesting part. About 1 week ago I accidentally gave the bike too much throttle in first, which I've done before, felt it start to lift at the front like they do, then next second I'm sliding on my back thinking roll, just roll **** it. I just got out of the hospital today after receiving severe road rash to my back and left side, along with a broken back. I know I'm an idiot for having no ppe on at the time but that isn't what I'm getting at here. The bike wheelie control and traction control didn't kick in which through me off the back at about 50km/h.

My question to those out there is this, is the Kawasaki wheelie control system something that is fail safe and classed as a safety system like traction control, or is it more of a fun gimmic like launch control?? As I stated above I know it did work on the bike and so did another rider. There was no warning lamps activated on the bike as I always look for those and the bike was not long serviced so everything should have been in good and working order.

I look forward to hearing any replies on this topic as I need to wait until Monday here to contact Kawasaki regarding the issue. Just seeing if someone else has noticed this on their bikes. Also it takes my mind off the pain as I lay in bed typing on my ipad.
 

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Hey guys, I'm new here so I won't bore with the backstory too much. Got my h2 2016 from a dealer new about 6 weeks ago now in Aus (it was old stock but brand new). Love the bike, it's a beast. Can pop power wheelies which I've never done before in my 8yr riding history as wasn't really into doing it but the wheelie control on Ktrc setting 2 allowed enough for fun but not too much. Even let a mate who used to race bikes ride it and he loved every second of it and said much the same as I did.

Now to the interesting part. About 1 week ago I accidentally gave the bike too much throttle in first, which I've done before, felt it start to lift at the front like they do, then next second I'm sliding on my back thinking roll, just roll **** it. I just got out of the hospital today after receiving severe road rash to my back and left side, along with a broken back. I know I'm an idiot for having no ppe on at the time but that isn't what I'm getting at here. The bike wheelie control and traction control didn't kick in which through me off the back at about 50km/h.

My question to those out there is this, is the Kawasaki wheelie control system something that is fail safe and classed as a safety system like traction control, or is it more of a fun gimmic like launch control?? As I stated above I know it did work on the bike and so did another rider. There was no warning lamps activated on the bike as I always look for those and the bike was not long serviced so everything should have been in good and working order.

I look forward to hearing any replies on this topic as I need to wait until Monday here to contact Kawasaki regarding the issue. Just seeing if someone else has noticed this on their bikes. Also it takes my mind off the pain as I lay in bed typing on my ipad.

KTRC is not 'wheelie control', nor does Kawasaki market it as such. The bike will put you on your back faster than Tommy The Hitman Hearns in his prime. KTRC controls excessive wheel spin and nothing more.
 

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To amend that, the 2017+ bikes introduced an IMU which did give the bike wheelie control along with a few other functions like sliding control. The 15 and 16 H2s did not have this, they just had a more basic (albeit very good) traction control system.
 

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Sorry to hear about the accident, I guess you’ve got to be happy you’re still in one piece...
As above, you were miss informed, no wheelie control on 15 & 16 bikes, 17- got the IMU for an improved safety net so Kawasaki have no case to answer.


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Wow ! What a crappie thing to happen , you must be gutted . I have flipped a few bikes in the past and came so close to doing the same on my 2015 H2 that I rode home and gave myself a good talking .
As I'm sure you have gathered you have no chance of blaming Kawasaki for this accident and as hard as it sounds it going to be " live and learn " but you have really done it the hard way .
Bob c and myself along with a number of others have warned how easy this bike will bite back , I think in the past your H2 has saved you by detecting wheel spin and cutting the revs that you have mistakenly assumed to be wheelie control.
Is the bike written of or is it repairable ?
As for taking your mine off the pain may I recommend pornhub .
 

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To amend that, the 2017+ bikes introduced an IMU which did give the bike wheelie control along with a few other functions like sliding control. The 15 and 16 H2s did not have this, they just had a more basic (albeit very good) traction control system.
I' love to see Kawasaki's (or any other manufacturer) terms and conditions on "wheelie control" should it be questioned

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As far as I was informed by the dealer and from use of the bike, I did indeed have wheelie control.
I have felt what traction control and abs is like when they cut in and this was definitely different. The bike would come up so far, then drop back down and as it dropped you could hear the engine being backed off the whole time. the rear wheel was not spinning at the time as i was never that hard on the throttle except the odd few times.
in saying that my racer friend pointed out it was cutting in too as he has never ridden a big bike that was new enough to have it installed. He is a lot heavier wristed than I am as well.

My main thought here was to question the wheelie control function itself, not its exact presence on the bike, cause if that's the case ill take that up with the dealer that sold it.

for those who use the function, is it something that can be over ridden or bypassed? i know my ktrc setting was 2 at the time but as i said, it saved me every other time a similar circumstance presented itself, i'm just trying to work out why the last time may have been different. They don't tell much about the wheelie control on the website apart from "it's there".

Lamf - yeah i'm alot better off than the bike at this stage, if you saw pics you'd wonder how im not hurt more.

Supercharged - i am gutted. Bike looks to be complete write-off. And not really looking for a way to take on kawasaki, going to talk to them about it but just trying to work out what is to blame. It's starting to look like the dealer that told me the only difference 16-17 was ohlins shock and green stickers. as for your recommendation, it's alittle hard to do when your movement is heavily restricted.
 

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To the best of my knowledge the 2016 does not have wheelie control.


I have the 2016 and it comes up very fast in the first 3-4 gears.
 

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If the dealer informed you that, then they made a mistake. The 2016 model does not have a wheelie control. Read the basic owners manual that you should have received with your machine and it clearly outlines the KTRC function on your year make and model.
 

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The only way to get (true)wheelie control is with an IMU, and the H2 didn't get that until 2017. Maybe in some of the higher traction control modes they just nanny it so it won't come up by looking at the front wheel sensor speed and comparing it to the rear wheel and declaring it spinning up and backing down the power.
 

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Yep...glad you made it okay.I don't try too much to wheely mine.A little,just lifting.But nothing extreme.The supercharger is just too quick.Yeah,I respect the power.Rather have a solid bike than risk it over 'trying to wheely like a pro'!...Poor bike...sorry to hear this.
 

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I have to pay attention to this thread. One of the main reasons I am getting an H2 is effortless wheelies(nothing better than an 200+ hp unicycle). I get the feeling I am going to have to relearn my wheelie technique. I like them at high speed, not stunting, just like to loft the wheel coming out of corneers etc.
 

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As far as I was informed by the dealer and from use of the bike, I did indeed have wheelie control.
I have felt what traction control and abs is like when they cut in and this was definitely different.
If 2016, coincidence. There happened to be enough speed difference between front and rear when wheelying before for traction control to save you by coincidentally cutting power at same time, but this time not. Check your manual and see for yourself: it will not say that KTRC provides you wheelie control. Believing that it did, and keeping throttle open while front was coming up, was accident waiting to happen, with not much wait likely.

Broken back sounds awful, hope it's better than that sounds!
 

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My question to those out there is this, is the Kawasaki wheelie control system something that..
Commanche if you want to have some wheelie control without rolling off the throttle practice/learn to lightly ride the rear brake, that is your wheelie control. I spent quite a bit of time practicing this technique as I was working on maximum roll-on launches.
 
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Such a shame that an H2 owner had to find out the hard way that the H2 doesn't have wheelie control.

It's true that we had this discussion a couple of years back. Some riders swore blind that the "control" saved them while others explained that under certain circumstances the TC will back it off for you but that it wasn't, never has been and was never claimed by Kawasaki to be, a wheelie control. Right up until the IMU equipped model.
 

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"lightly ride the rear brake, that is your wheelie control"...yessss...that's it right there.
My rear brake is my control pedal. Corner entry and exit, wheelie control, etc. I go through rear pads as quickly as fronts.
Ditto everything these gentlemen and Racer172, and Turbo stated.
And sorry to hear about your accident, hope you heal quickly and well sir!
 
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