GP Shift or Reverse is a no-no

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Flipr

Discussion Starter · Feb 17, 2015

Well unfortunately or those of us who like GP shift (1 up,5 down) on our H2's we won't be able to do this.
Reversing or turning upside down the linkage on the gearbox spline won't work because of a lack of room.
Also the quickshifter won't allow this to work.

Now I have to swap my Gen3 back to 1 down 5 up so I can re-learn. Bu33er

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Turtle1000

· #11 · Feb 19, 2015

Nessuno said:
wouldn't a simple change in linkages solve the issue?

Since there's an actuator/sensor there that moves one way for upshifts and the other for downshifts you'd have to reverse what the push and pull does.its more of a software issue than hardware imo. I forgot to look at the bmw to see how they made it possible.

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Turtle1000

· #13 · Feb 19, 2015 (Edited)

On the bmw? Or h2, I assume h2... I'll poke around

Ok I could be way off but I believe my premise is sound, attached is a link showing what was labeled a gp shift or reverse style. Notice when your pushing down your really moving the shift linkage up and vice versa. It would be the other way around with regular style. Push down, the linkage rotates down and vice versa. My terms may not be spot on here but you get the idea

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachm...8-reverse-shift-gp-shift-mts1200-img_8298.jpg

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Turtle1000

· #14 · Feb 19, 2015

Telling someone that's use to gp to suddenly switch back to regular is like telling a right handed person to switch to being left hand dominant. Possible but not exactly optimal... Like trying to swing a left handed driver when a righty, or using a lefty glove in baseball when right handed.
It's got nothing to do riding the bike first before deciding on gp shift,sounds like they all ready decided a long before this bike. Personally so long as the qs works when switched to gp I'd have at it. .02

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Turtle1000

· #16 · Feb 20, 2015

Flipr said:
Turtle1000 said:

Telling someone that's use to gp to suddenly switch back to regular is like telling a right handed person to switch to being left hand dominant. Possible but not exactly optimal... Like trying to swing a left handed driver when a righty, or using a lefty glove in baseball when right handed.
It's got nothing to do riding the bike first before deciding on gp shift,sounds like they all ready decided a long before this bike. Personally so long as the qs works when switched to gp I'd have at it. .02[/Q

Yay!
Someone actually get's it.
I wanted to say something to the people that were "I think we need to ride it first",but I couldn't think of a nice explanation without profanities.
Thanks[/QUOTE

Once it's commited to muscle memory it's as hard or harder to re learn the regular pattern. I'm trying to tone down profanities. I gave myself a time out from forum as I was losing my mind.....

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Turtle1000

· #19 · Feb 20, 2015

The factory shifter being good won't change whether someone's use to gp shift. I think that if the question is asked or in this case if the statement is made, no answer will do.. The h2sfactory shift pattern isn't going to magically change someone back to wanting a regular pattern just by how great it is. The new bikes aren't all coming out with switchable patterns because no one wants it ya know. I think the only reason this one didn't is because it's not a race bike, it's the only thing I can think of. I would expect the new 10r to have it as the new bmw does and the new r1 is suppose to.

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Turtle1000

· #21 · Feb 20, 2015

^^ yeah the sensor never changes direction it's the shifter that does that. I confuse myself sometimes..My bike doesn't have qs so I have little experience with it personally but I hear a lot of guys yapping about it for sure. I know with my 10r a lot of folks splice a linkage part from a gen 3 10r to make it work. It's not the only way but seems cheep and easy.

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Turtle1000

· #29 · Apr 7, 2015

Mike Smith said:
Can you use a transmission linkage piece that is off a concourse as it has a positive off set and then figure out a way to get the foot shifter to offset enough to clear the frame then turn the QS thingy around so it sees the same movement for GP shift?

Could I? Not a chance in **** but maybe someone with more mechanical skill lol I'm jk but it seems theoretically possible, but then again so does time travel...

good luck man looks tricky

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