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Good news - the exhaust weighs 50 pounds.

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Cliff Secord
Or at least this guy says it does. Won't be sure til it's on a scale but this guy seems like he should be in a position to know. Maybe that tank underneath is just a weight filled with moon rock?

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the orignal slip on cost 1400 euro + taxes 21percent


the front exhaust pipes headers cost 1800 euro + 21 percent taxes


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Greenguy
H2R said:
Or at least this guy says it does. Won't be sure til it's on a scale but this guy seems like he should be in a position to know. Maybe that tank underneath is just a weight filled with moon rock?

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He is saying that the H2 weight 50 pounds more than the H2R so you have to take in account all the differences beetween both bike ( the add of the light and flasher and the rear fender + the carbon fiber parts). I am ready to see around 35 pounds for the exhaust it is still a lot of weight that can be take of. I am dying to see a complete exhaust sys. for the H2 so we can get rid of the original sys. and forget about it.
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Bazza
question for those with the technical know. Since the H2 is essentially using a breathed on ZX I4, would it be possible to work up a full system from the 10 for duty on the H2?

I'm doubtful, yes, curious, indeed....
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The H2 engine is not at all like a breathed-on ZX14.
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Frio
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The H2 engine is not at all like a breathed-on ZX14.
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Indeed, they are not similar at all.
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Bazza
not ZX14, but ZX i4, I meant the inline 4 of the ZX10... 1 and I look similar don't they ;):D If I'm remembering correctly the H2 is making use of a modified ZX10 998cc...

Again I don't think its possible, but curious none the less..
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Apparently most guys having a boosted 14 think THIS bike is a lemon.What do you guys think?
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Cliff Secord
Bazza said:
not ZX14, but ZX i4, I meant the inline 4 of the ZX10... 1 and I look similar don't they ;):D
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I understood what you meant. It's a good idea.
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Cliff Secord
SilverbirdH2 said:
Apparently most guys having a boosted 14 think THIS bike is a lemon.What do you guys think?
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I think they've got another 70 pounds to worry about before they start bothering us. :D
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Bazza said:
not ZX14, but ZX i4, I meant the inline 4 of the ZX10... 1 and I look similar don't they ;):D If I'm remembering correctly the H2 is making use of a modified ZX10 998cc...

Again I don't think its possible, but curious none the less..
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Aha! :) Makes sense
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SilverbirdH2
Well...they say the boosted 14R will kill the H2 regardless.What amount of boost are these 14R guys running?I mean...in order to get the 1441 motor to survive being boosted...don't they have to install aftermarket engine parts to be able to run it?(I don't mean like 5lbs of boost).

The H2/H2R is putting out 20 to 35 lbs depending,right?With factory Kawasaki engine parts.How much boost CAN you feed to a 1441 engine without it grenading...and also...being able to feel assured that your bike will last for a long time.Street riding that is.
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Cliff Secord
SilverbirdH2 said:
Well...they say the boosted 14R will kill the H2 regardless.What amount of boost are these 14R guys running?I mean...in order to get the 1441 motor to survive being boosted...don't they have to install aftermarket engine parts to be able to run it?(I don't mean like 5lbs of boost).

The H2/H2R is putting out 20 to 35 lbs depending,right?With factory Kawasaki engine parts.How much boost CAN you feed to a 1441 engine without it grenading...and also...being able to feel assured that your bike will last for a long time.Street riding that is.
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There's always gonna be somebody faster. (The H2 makes that list substantially shorter though. >:D )
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SilverbirdH2 said:
Well...they say the boosted 14R will kill the H2 regardless.What amount of boost are these 14R guys running?I mean...in order to get the 1441 motor to survive being boosted...don't they have to install aftermarket engine parts to be able to run it?(I don't mean like 5lbs of boost).

The H2/H2R is putting out 20 to 35 lbs depending,right?With factory Kawasaki engine parts.How much boost CAN you feed to a 1441 engine without it grenading...and also...being able to feel assured that your bike will last for a long time.Street riding that is.
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Ohhhh Now I see the "I" instead of the "1" in that earlier post! >:D

YES you can get more power than the H2 makes out of a ZX14. Heck, Rickey Gadson himself has such an example.

But ...

Warranty ...

Reliability ...

Driveability ... (I'm pretty sure the H2 will be just as gentle a pussycat as a ZX10R is when puttering around town at 2500 rpm or stuck in traffic, and let's face it, it's going to spend more time in those conditions than any other)

Weight ... A ZX14 is a heavy beast. Much more than the H2.

Cornering ... most boosted big-bore bikes have some (ahem) cornering-clearance issues.

Legality ... The H2 in stock form passes all regulatory emission and noise requirements. (In some areas around where I live, they DO enforce this!) 3-way catalyst ... stock muffler ... There's nothing the noise/emissions police can criticise. A boosted ZX14 by definition is not going to have the stock emission and noise control equipment!

Insurability ... My insurer - State Farm - won't insure a modified bike. Power-adders like turbo etc are a no-no. But if it comes from the factory like that ...
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Greenguy
SilverbirdH2 said:
Apparently most guys having a boosted 14 think THIS bike is a lemon.What do you guys think?
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This is what I think:
Every component of the engine was chosen to achieve a certain function. In order to
accommodate the higher air pressure from the supercharger, as well as to help ensure
reliability of the Ninja H2, the entire engine was designed to be able to
handle stresses 1.5-2x greater than a naturally aspirated liter-class engine.

Over that the H2 is lighter it as a dog ring tranny it have the KTRC, KLCM, KAWASAKI ENGINE BRAKE CONTROL, KIBS, KQS, ÖHLINS ELECTRONIC STEERING DAMPER and it is a lot nicer and look meaner and is more exclusive then the ZX14.

The H2 is the next step after the ZX14 and it can be trick out the same they did with there ZX14.

We will really know only when we will be able to ride that beast but I think that it is a pointless statment to say that the H2 is a lemon. .
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Cliff Secord
Greenguy said:
This is what I think:
Every component of the engine was chosen to achieve a certain function. In order to
accommodate the higher air pressure from the supercharger, as well as to help ensure
reliability of the Ninja H2, the entire engine was designed to be able to
handle stresses 1.5-2x greater than a naturally aspirated liter-class engine.

Over that the H2 is lighter it as a dog ring tranny it have the KTRC, KLCM, KAWASAKI ENGINE BRAKE CONTROL, KIBS, KQS, ÖHLINS ELECTRONIC STEERING DAMPER and it is a lot nicer and look meaner and is more exclusive then the ZX14.

The H2 is the next step after the ZX14 and it can be trick out the same they did with there ZX14.

We will really know only when we will be able to ride that beast but I think that it is a pointless statment to say that the H2 is a lemon. .
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Sounds less like 'lemon' and more like 'sour grapes'.
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Cliff Secord
That big tank underneath houses a honeycomb type catalytic converter. It's not in the mufflers. Boo.
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