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I've been perusing the wishful thinking going on in some of these threads and it's a little bit hard to believe some of you mechanics are that uneducated. This Guhl cat can flash the ECU all he wants, it's not going to change physics. Kawi put the identical blower and motor in both bikes except for the head gasket, cam and clutch. Does anyone here besides me know what those three things do or why they're different on the H2R?
The reason the H2 is limited to 10.5k and whatever map it's coming with is because the mechanicals will not endure revving to 14 grand. The cams will not have the lift and duration to pull enough fuel and air in, nor will it expel the gasses. Nor will the H2's head gasket endure the higher compression. What you guys are about to do is put the H2R's map on an engine with higher compression than the R! Sure, you may get a few big number runs, but I wouldn't plan on keeping your cylinder heads for long. I'd also stop using Gadson's bike as a comparison because his motor has no relation to the motor you'll be getting.
The other cheerleader you're getting your big HP pipe-dream hype from also doesn't seem to grasp the concept of gearing limits. Doesn't matter how much HP they make, the wheels only spin so fast at 14.5k RPM based on the drive gearing. The same guy who doesn't understand that simple math is excitedly (and erroneously) telling you about the big numbers Guhl is gonna make for you by copy/pasting the R's map onto your street bike. How many of you are willing to hose your warranty-voided motors figuring out why Kawi put a 25K premium on the R?
Unless Kawi is holding back those bikes to upgrade them internally, the first few dudes to flash their ECU are gonna find out real quick what it's like to be sitting on a grenade when it goes off. And don't forget that blower spinning 130,000rpm right underneath your junk.
You think a flash and a new spring in your BOV are gonna open the floodgates you're in for an expensive lesson in engineering. Speaking of which, why are you paying 30K for a bike that requires this much anticipatory re-engineering? I'd think for that kinda dough, it'd be done already?
The reason the H2 is limited to 10.5k and whatever map it's coming with is because the mechanicals will not endure revving to 14 grand. The cams will not have the lift and duration to pull enough fuel and air in, nor will it expel the gasses. Nor will the H2's head gasket endure the higher compression. What you guys are about to do is put the H2R's map on an engine with higher compression than the R! Sure, you may get a few big number runs, but I wouldn't plan on keeping your cylinder heads for long. I'd also stop using Gadson's bike as a comparison because his motor has no relation to the motor you'll be getting.
The other cheerleader you're getting your big HP pipe-dream hype from also doesn't seem to grasp the concept of gearing limits. Doesn't matter how much HP they make, the wheels only spin so fast at 14.5k RPM based on the drive gearing. The same guy who doesn't understand that simple math is excitedly (and erroneously) telling you about the big numbers Guhl is gonna make for you by copy/pasting the R's map onto your street bike. How many of you are willing to hose your warranty-voided motors figuring out why Kawi put a 25K premium on the R?
Unless Kawi is holding back those bikes to upgrade them internally, the first few dudes to flash their ECU are gonna find out real quick what it's like to be sitting on a grenade when it goes off. And don't forget that blower spinning 130,000rpm right underneath your junk.
You think a flash and a new spring in your BOV are gonna open the floodgates you're in for an expensive lesson in engineering. Speaking of which, why are you paying 30K for a bike that requires this much anticipatory re-engineering? I'd think for that kinda dough, it'd be done already?