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After reading some of the posts about bike setup, I made a point of visiting with my dealer about this. Not to talk poorly about mechanics, but I have seen just too many examples of guys in the shop mistreating other people's really nice toys. The dealer agreed to notify me as soon as the bike comes in and before they uncrate it. He said he would have his top guy review the setup directions and assemble the bike with me there. He did sorta wish out loud that he would like to make an event of it and maybe invite his better customers to watch. I will probably agree with this and let him display it the first weekend if he can secure it well enough - secure the keys, keep people off of the bike, etc.


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I did ask the dealer about sales numbers and he did not have any information from Kawasaki. He did not think any others had been sold here in Arkansas and had not received any info about the order period being extended.
 

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I'm glad people are excited but I'm definitely not looking forward to some of the inevitable horror stories that are going to result from lust, rarity and opportunity. Fingers crossed it's nobody here.

I've never had a display go well with cars that were a draw. There's always one ******* with a small kid who runs under the barrier swinging a matchbox car, one cocky prick who thinks the rules are for other people and leaves a greasy hand print somewhere you just cleaned or some fat lady with a big purse checking her phone who cluelessly knocks over a stanchion. You also know full well if you leave the keys there at some point somebody going to decide there's no harm in "just starting it once" and then it turns into 'well okay YOU can sit on it - but just for a second". Next thing you know the whole town has sat on your bike and determined "it sucks" so they sound discerning or worse a YT video of a salesman trying to get laid by letting some warthog sit on it flip flops, pretending to go fast scratching up your tank with her belly ring (this particular horror I've seen in person).

They don't care about you or your bike, they care about themselves and their personal gratification. There's no risk to them if they f*ck it up. There's also no upside to doing a free favor for a guy who's making money off you. It might be worth it if he knocked off the cost of paperwork or prep. You're taking a massive risk - it should be a two way street. But even then… the point of buying something special is people being excited to see it when you show up. If everyone's already had their curiosity satisfied, you're just on another bike. "Oh yeah, I sat on that last week. Meh."

Anyone who thinks I'm overly cynical - you're right. Curse the world for sh*tting in my mouth so many times. Please ignore my opinion and enjoy your life like a sane person. :D
 

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I did ask the dealer about sales numbers and he did not have any information from Kawasaki. He did not think any others had been sold here in Arkansas and had not received any info about the order period being extended.


I concur based on my dealer telling me the area rep which covers Arkansas and Oklahoma told me only one had be sold in Arkansas and two here in Oklahoma :D Pretty exclusive if you ask me.


And I'm way jealous you live in Arkansas, I try to ride there at least once a year. Great roads and scenery.
 
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I concur based on my dealer telling me the area rep which covers Arkansas and Oklahoma told me only one had be sold in Arkansas and two here in Oklahoma :D Pretty exclusive if you ask me.


And I'm way jealous you live in Arkansas, I try to ride there at least once a year. Great roads and scenery.
I'm even more jealous, heard all the good things about what Arkansas is like but never been! Hopefully soon enough.
 

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H2R, this is Arkansas, there is not just one kid coming in, there is a whole pack. Going to the motorcycle dealer is bigger than going to Walmart! The idea of ten little hillbillies climbing on my new bike just totally killed any thoughts of leaving the bike there. Probably a lot smarter idea to wait and let them see the bike when I am around to supervise. I am usually the cynic too, so you just confirmed my thinking and I won't explore the thought of the display anymore. By the way, the whole shop is trying to play suck up about the bike, everyone there is planning to ride my new bike. Hate to burst their bubble.

Riding here is fun. The road about a mile from my house heads towards the mountains and there are numerous one to three hour circuits. Some stretches where you can't top out a Honda 90 and others where you could hit 130+. Hazards however include radar, jail, wildlife, hillbillys in pickup trucks, soccer moms, drunk hunters, and stupid people in general. Needless to say, there is no dull riding here.
 

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I concur based on my dealer telling me the area rep which covers Arkansas and Oklahoma told me only one had be sold in Arkansas and two here in Oklahoma :D Pretty exclusive if you ask me.
I expect that ultimately in Canada the H2 compared to the U.S. wont' be particularly "exclusive" at all. :crying:
 

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Are us Canadians overrepresenting in H2 ownership? I can think of three members of this forum (myself, yourself, and Frio) just from the Toronto area who are future H2 owners and that doesn't include (1) others who I've potentially forgotten about, (2) others who haven't spoken up here!

Mine is on order from Burlington Cycle.
 

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Perhaps... mine is on order from Snow City, and there is at least another one that has been ordered there.
 

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I think it makes sense there are several from the GTA here. There is relative affluence in the area coupled with access to riding roads, which IMO makes a perfect mixture.

Is Toronto over performing or are other metropolis' under performing? Are we seeing NYC and surrounding supporting the H2 in the same way the GTA is?

I find this interesting...
 

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I can't find that thread that we talked about 'sealing' the finish on our new bikes and the mention of the paint and clear being cured or not upon arrival.I did some researching.

My concerns about applying a sealer I think were unnecessary.Those guys at Kawasaki have the best of the best paint booths in the world.Totally controllable..temps and humidities.They aren't about to ruin their beautiful new paint coats by NOT getting things right.I do believe this paint and clear will be fully cured at the factory.Sealing it at my dealer won't be problem.
 

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I can't find that thread that we talked about 'sealing' the finish on our new bikes and the mention of the paint and clear being cured or not upon arrival.I did some researching.

My concerns about applying a sealer I think were unnecessary.Those guys at Kawasaki have the best of the best paint booths in the world.Totally controllable..temps and humidities.They aren't about to ruin their beautiful new paint coats by NOT getting things right.I do believe this paint and clear will be fully cured at the factory.Sealing it at my dealer won't be problem.
This 'sealing paint' is something new to me, I've never really looked at applying any special protection of any sort here in UK. Am I missing something ? I certainly would like to retain the factory quality of that fantastic paint job ...... someone enlighten me :)
 

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It's a product like a wax...except it fills the pores and surface with a 'skin' that allows easier removal of road stuff to be removed with a lot less rubbing and such.Also protects against UV rays and smog...stuff like that.Allows waxing on top of it.Basically keeps everything factory gloss.Instead of trying to buff out swirls which would normally get into the clear coat surface...it adds a layer of buffable surface to take care of any LIGHT scratches...God Forbid!!!;)

You have to remember...this new paint on the H2 is covered with at least TWO clear coats...possibly three.Depending on which bodypart it's applied to.Sealing is a good way to never allow any scratches to reach the paint surface itself.(unless they're deep gouges).The paint will not be affected by outside factors of normal use...so it stays brilliant.

Any REAL professional detailer company has this type of finish application.I use ChemicalGuys...on the web.Bought their stuff before..VERY high quality...lots of instructional vids on there as well.

Using a Microfiber buffing cloth is paramount to keeping the luster intact.But you need one especially made for this kind of surface maintenance.As well as a High quality applicator.
 

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It's a product like a wax...except it fills the pores and surface with a 'skin' that allows easier removal of road stuff to be removed with a lot less rubbing and such.Also protects against UV rays and smog...stuff like that.Allows waxing on top of it.Basically keeps everything factory gloss.Instead of trying to buff out swirls which would normally get into the clear coat surface...it adds a layer of buffable surface to take care of any LIGHT scratches...God Forbid!!!;)

You have to remember...this new paint on the H2 is covered with at least TWO clear coats...possibly three.Depending on which bodypart it's applied to.Sealing is a good way to never allow any scratches to reach the paint surface itself.(unless they're deep gouges).
Ok sounds good ! So .... what should I get, what sort of prep do I need to do, when do I apply it and how ?
I know there are other comments on here talking about this but someone spell it out to me in one post that'll lead me through it start to finish :)
Well .... it is a support forum isn't it, help me out guys :) :)
 

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Carefully clean the finish off with a microfiber towel(new and unused)...and some warm water.Dry completely...gently.Apply the sealant after you inspect the (cleaned)surface(s) for any swirls and such.Remove those first with something like Meguiars swirl remover...keeping in mind to apply and buff GENTLY.New applicator is a must.New towel is also a must...unless you're sure it doesn't have any micro particles in it from previous cleanings.

Apply the sealant gently and as the instructions say(usually has a drying time).Buff out as per the instructions..on the windscreen,do NOT apply OR buff out using a swirling motion.Straight up and down strokes.Inside and outside.Also the same on the body panels...straight strokes..no swirling it on..buffing it out gently using swirling motions will be okay.You just have to really be sure there's NOTHING embedded in the original clear coat surface before applying the sealant...meaning...swirl marks and such.They WILL show up through the sealer if they're in there.

Just go slow...and get it right the first time...wax(a high quality one)can be applied afterwards....same application process...This bike doesn't have a huge surface area in any one spot...so that's a plus.

You can bond with yer bike while the sealant is bonding with the finish;)

You don't need to use a lot of pressure applying or buffing the new finish out.LIGHT pressure...that's all you should do.I'm no expert...these tips are coming from that website I gave you...good stuff in there...and I have used their advice plenty of times.They know what they're talking about;)

The towel is critically important.Microfiber for this type of application is a must!And it needs to be one purposely made for this type of process.


There are some Kawasaki videos online showing and explaining the paint application process for this bike.They've taken great pride in perfecting the quality they were aiming for with it.It's not been done like the other models.They don't want their Rivermark finish to get messed up during shipping or owner usage.
 

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Carefully clean the finish off with a microfiber towel(new and unused)...and some warm water.Dry completely...gently.Apply the sealant after you inspect the (cleaned)surface(s) for any swirls and such.Remove those first with something like Meguiars swirl remover...keeping in mind to apply and buff GENTLY.New applicator is a must.New towel is also a must...unless you're sure it doesn't have any micro particles in it from previous cleanings.

Apply the sealant gently and as the instructions say(usually has a drying time).Buff out as per the instructions..on the windscreen,do NOT apply OR buff out using a swirling motion.Straight up and down strokes.Inside and outside.Also the same on the body panels...straight strokes..no swirling it on..buffing it out gently using swirling motions will be okay.You just have to really be sure there's NOTHING embedded in the original clear coat surface before applying the sealant...meaning...swirl marks and such.They WILL show up through the sealer if they're in there.

Just go slow...and get it right the first time...wax(a high quality one)can be applied afterwards....same application process...This bike doesn't have a huge surface area in any one spot...so that's a plus.

You can bond with yer bike while the sealant is bonding with the finish;)

You don't need to use a lot of pressure applying or buffing the new finish out.LIGHT pressure...that's all you should do.I'm no expert...these tips are coming from that website I gave you...good stuff in there...and I have used their advice plenty of times.They know what they're talking about;)

The towel is critically important.Microfiber for this type of application is a must!And it needs to be one purposely made for this type of process.


There are some Kawasaki videos online showing and explaining the paint application process for this bike.They've taken great pride in perfecting the quality they were aiming for with it.It's not been done like the other models.They don't want their Rivermark finish to get messed up during shipping or owner usage.
Perfect, just what I was looking for cheers :)
 
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