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Has anyone had chance to try METZELER RACETEC RR
Tyres on your h2?

Which out of the 3 would be the top choice for all h2 owners:
1. Battlax Racing Street rs 10
(2015 Ninja H2/ Yamaha R1M oem tyre)

2. Metzeler Racetec RR
(Winner of 2014 TT ISLE OF MAN trophy, also designed and tested at TT Isle of Man and other major competitions)

3. Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa sp
(2015 Ducati Panigale R oem tyre)
 

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For Street: Michelin SuperSport EVO
For Track: Diablo SuperCorsa SP

SuperSport is very good on track too, but Diablos are almost slick.

I found RS10 extremely soft on shoulders and also in the middle, not good for street in any form, probably 2nd for Track in my list.

Never tested Metzeler so far... but for me: SuperSport EVO do the job just fine.
 

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Only tire I trust my life to is Pirelli. The Bridgestones may be great but they weren't for many, many years and it's going to take more than one set to win me over. Pirelli however has been epic since the 90's. I ride 9/10ths on the street and since all the way back to Dragons, Pirelli have been king.

Dunslops I won't even use for break-in.
Metzler - unless your uncle works for the company, why bother?

The only reason I'm even entertaining the possibility that the Battlax's are trustworthy is because they have been used successfully on the R. Once the first set is gone I'm still going back to Pirelli though.
 

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No my uncle does not work for the company. I found article about the tyres and wanted positive feedback

"METZELER RACETEC:tm: RR has indeed won the comparative tyre test made by the authoritative publication and published in the issue that hits the newsstand today. These are the tyres compared by MCN: METZELER RACETEC:tm: RR K3, Pirelli DIABLO:tm: Supercorsa SP, Bridgestone Battlax RS10, Dunlop Sportmax GP Racer D211, Continental ContiRaceAttack Comp e Michelin Power Supersport."

http://www.gmotoimports.com.au/article/racetec-rr-the-best-racing-street-tyre-for-motorcycle-news

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/metzeler-launches-new-racetec-rr-supersport-racing-tire/
 

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Only tire I trust my life to is Pirelli. The Bridgestones may be great but they weren't for many, many years and it's going to take more than one set to win me over. Pirelli however has been epic since the 90's. I ride 9/10ths on the street and since all the way back to Dragons, Pirelli have been king.

Dunslops I won't even use for break-in.
Metzler - unless your uncle works for the company, why bother?

The only reason I'm even entertaining the possibility that the Battlax's are trustworthy is because they have been used successfully on the R. Once the first set is gone I'm still going back to Pirelli though.
"After 1979 Metzeler focused only on motorcycle tyres, and was acquired by Pirelli in 1986"

So your uncle works for Metzeler?
 

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"After 1979 Metzeler focused only on motorcycle tyres, and was acquired by Pirelli in 1986"

So your uncle works for Metzeler?
Lol. I know they're the same owner and use similar compounds but they're still two different animals. It's like the difference between Maserati and Ferrari. They have the same heart but why would you mess around with the offshoot? It's the same money near as no difference, just buy the Ferrari. Unless you prefer the tread design of the Metzler, I don't know why you'd want the sibling. It's like buying the Topaz instead if the Escort just to be different. Or the Sable over the Taurus. Or the Plymouth Voyager over the Dodge Caravan. Jesus those were some horrible examples. Ooh, wait, maybe the Stealth over the 3000GT? The Conquest over the Starion. Nope, those were not better either.

If I'm spending the money and risking my life and my bike, I'm going with Pirelli.
 

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I have just fitted Metzeler Racetec RR to my Ducati Panigale 1199s, it came standard with Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa sp.
I feel that there is more vibration through the bike now with the Metzler's, but on the road they warm up way faster and grip really well. Now that the Bridgestone have had 2 track days through them and a few miles on the clock, they are ready to be replaced and are more thank likely going for the Metzelers, please let us know if they are any good on this bike
 

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I am on my second set of Metzler M7rr tyres and for street and twisties they are great, I also did a trackday on them a couple of weeks ago and they were fine.
 

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I am on my second set of Metzler M7rr tyres and for street and twisties they are great, I also did a trackday on them a couple of weeks ago and they were fine.

The newer Racetec RR tyres claimed to be better then the M7RR. Also the Racetec RR tyres claim to be designed for unpredictable road changes and conditions from loose gravel, sand, water, etc. so to reply to an earlier statement by another genteman...even though other companies may be superior doesn't mean their tyres are better for the environment that I ride my race majority of the time which is on the street where road types and conditions vary.
 

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I am on my second set of Metzler M7rr tyres and for street and twisties they are great, I also did a trackday on them a couple of weeks ago and they were fine.
See, that right there is the problem. I LOVE my Supercorsas to the point I find myself looking at them as much as I do the bikes they're on. I know what I ask of them 90% of the time is patently ridiculous yet still they never falter. I KNOW Pirelli routinely keeps my backside out of a great deal of trouble and on one occasion even saved my life when all should have been lost. They're the Captain Sully of tires. One of those super cops that leaps over bridge railings to catch the suicidal. A battle field medic. Or you could get the Metzlers because they're 'fine'.
 

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I have just fitted Metzeler Racetec RR to my Ducati Panigale 1199s, it came standard with Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa sp.
I feel that there is more vibration through the bike now with the Metzler's, but on the road they warm up way faster and grip really well. Now that the Bridgestone have had 2 track days through them and a few miles on the clock, they are ready to be replaced and are more thank likely going for the Metzelers, please let us know if they are any good on this bike
I have noticed vibration as well when I first change my h2 tyres to a different brand until I actually rode the bike long enough to break in the front tyre which took longer due to cold weather. Now everything is smooth. Please give an update once you break-in front tyre. Also have you had you suspension professionally set?
 

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The newer Racetec RR tyres claimed to be better then the M7RR. Also the Racetec RR tyres claim to be designed for unpredictable road changes and conditions from loose gravel, sand, water, etc. so to reply to an earlier statement by another genteman...even though other companies may be superior doesn't mean their tyres are better for the environment that I ride my race majority of the time which is on the street where road types and conditions vary.
Wouldn't like to be caught to long in the rain with the race techs even metzler give them 1 star in the wet and only 2 stars for wear great for the track im sure but I will stick with my recommendation of the 7rr tyres for all over performance.
 

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I have noticed vibration as well when I first change my h2 tyres to a different brand until I actually rode the bike long enough to break in the front tyre which took longer due to cold weather. Now everything is smooth. Please give an update once you break-in front tyre. Also have you had you suspension professionally set?
That is good to know I must just get in the saddle a bit more:D
 

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Hey guys, as per the KHI tyre selection for my 2017 H2 I have worn out both tyres at the same time. Remember the front to back rubber ratio is 3:1. So wearing then out on street use at the same time would mean that my H2 is being ridden as the engineers envisaged. power and handling is in the envelope they originally envisaged. The front and rear are within a couple of mm of the canvas. I did this purposely to understand what is wrong with the riding style with so many members burning out tyres in such a short time.

It would seem to me that some of the H2's potential is not being explored by many. A 3:1 rubber front to back ratio is not there for no reason. I certainly can tear a rear tyre to destruction so quickly but I would miss out on the full potential of the bike by using full throttle thrills.

Anybody guess how many Km before my tyre change today? ( Ducati guys don't follow me for long in the corners, they are only a memory in the mirrors).

Oh, new set are Conti Attack 3's.
 

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Hey guys, as per the KHI tyre selection for my 2017 H2 I have worn out both tyres at the same time. Remember the front to back rubber ratio is 3:1. So wearing then out on street use at the same time would mean that my H2 is being ridden as the engineers envisaged. power and handling is in the envelope they originally envisaged. The front and rear are within a couple of mm of the canvas. I did this purposely to understand what is wrong with the riding style with so many members burning out tyres in such a short time.

It would seem to me that some of the H2's potential is not being explored by many. A 3:1 rubber front to back ratio is not there for no reason. I certainly can tear a rear tyre to destruction so quickly but I would miss out on the full potential of the bike by using full throttle thrills.

Anybody guess how many Km before my tyre change today? ( Ducati guys don't follow me for long in the corners, they are only a memory in the mirrors).

Oh, new set are Conti Attack 3's.

You talking about the rs10s?
I rode the rs10s on my Zx10 and the tire (rear) only lasted me 1200-1700 miles street use.
I tried the Dunlop q4
I immediately took them off after about 200 miles of riding.
They didn’t inspire confidence because they lack feel when leaned over and actually slipped a little on hard lean full throttle with out me predicting it.
The rs10 were great for feel but the rear was too sticky and felt sluggish on straights.

Had the Perelli sp stock on other bike zx10RR and loved those tires great feel overall
Grip of rs10
Took a bit longer to warm up
But didn’t feel glued to floor so the bike could move side to side and straight with ease

I ran Michelin power rs they are great tires for stickiness, wear, heating up, feedback.
Just they pick up nails like it’s going out of style.
I stopped using them on my zx10 but they still on turbo busa and they hold up 😮 180lbs torque and they hold up 😂

Ended up doing rs10 front rs21 rear
Amazing combo
Sticky corners and hard enough in back to WOT through turns and pop out on straights.


Now the h2 2019
Comes with the battleaxe rs11
I wonder how that’s gonna be
I tired to buy a pair but they still are not on sale 🏽🏽🏽
 

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I have stayed with the RS10. They perform very well in a straight line for my standing-mile LSR meetings and are plenty good enough for the roads. I don't do track days so no need to change and I wouldn't compromise performance for a few extra miles of use.

Image is an RS10 after a few mile runs. You can see how grippy it is and how I was leaning into a side wind.
 

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I absolutely love the Michelin RS tires for the H2. Traction as good if not better than the Bridgestones, triple milage, and the handling is so, so much sweeter. The turn in takes much less effort and it tracks much better. Very confidence inspiring.
 

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RS10’s came stock on my R1. A fantastic tire! I was surprised that I like it so much considering all the terrible experiences I had with Bridgestone tires with previous bikes. Someone else mentioned that they didn’t last very long. I got just under 2k before they needed to be replaced. I’ve grown fond of Perelli angel GT’s.
 

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My original post was the question is why do you wear out tyres so quickly? If you ride the H2 to it's potential then both tyres should wear out all the rubber on both, not just the centre or the edges. The rubber ratio is 3:1 for both wheels so if you are wearing out just part of the tyre then you must be riding it in a narrow performance envelope and not riding it to it's full potential. This observation is for street riding only. If in street riding the tyre don't last then KHI got it wrong in tyre size? It takes a lot of aggressive riding to wear out all the rubber across the tyres which from my observation not many do before the tyres are unserviceable.

Like everybody here I can destroy my rear tyre quickly, nothing unique about that but can you destroy all the rubber across both tyres at about the same rate? That means hard cornering, lots of hard corner braking, powered exits or are you just a straight line Charlie on the street? Ridden to it's original intention the tyre size choice is spot on.
 

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.......If you ride the H2 to it's potential .......... This observation is for street riding only........

Like everybody here I can destroy my rear tyre quickly, nothing unique about that but can you destroy all the rubber across both tyres at about the same rate? That means hard cornering, lots of hard corner braking, powered exits or are you just a straight line Charlie on the street? Ridden to it's original intention the tyre size choice is spot on.
I'm no killjoy but if you ride an H2 to it's full potential on the street you need locking up but I don't think you meant that. The argument would be better expressed as "normal" straight line acceleration and cornering which should wear the tyres evenly. Although from experience most riders use at least two rears to every front tyre.
 
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