[1krider]

I LOVE the blower.
But, at $25,000 , I'm out.

I can't justify paying TWICE what I did for a brand new ZX10 ABS.
Especially when compared to what the base 1000cc bikes offer, and what can be had in the aftermarket for BIG power. (Turbo ZX14, etc)

2015 NINJA H2? Supersport Motorcycle by Kawasaki




Since these are street bikes that are subjected to all the issues/dangers/etc that we deal with on the street, I wish we could still buy bare bone versions of 1000cc bikes similar in spec and price to the 2006 GSX-R 1000 that was selling brand new for $9,500.

 

[Bazza]

for $25K I was expecting easily 250 hp, I don't see why there needs to be 100 hp between the H2 and H2R. What I'm most curious about is how available those 'extra' 100 horses are. If its simply a state of tune that one can easily unlock from a competent tuner I think $25K will sound like a bargain, $25K + cost of tune= 300 bhp. OK deal...

As of now I'm leaning a bit towards 1k's side of the garage...

As for the 2006 GSX-R thing, its not 2006 and it will never be 2006 again. That was the golden age of disposable income (ok credit, but who's counting), Powersports got smacked in 08-09 and have never recovered. Used market is so robust, incremental gains yearly mean new purchases have become near superfluous.

 

[Bluesun]

That's really unfortunate. Yea, I'm out as well. All of that hype.

Could not agree more about the need for bare bones bikes. I think people forget about bikes being $10k. I remember in 2009 there were overstock 2008 CBR1000RR's selling for like $8500.

It's been real, folks.

EDIT: I didn't even see the horsepower numbers...if 200hp is accurate, that is laughable for $25k. Come on, man.

 

[Bazza]

That's really unfortunate. Yea, I'm out as well. All of that hype.

Could not agree more about the need for bare bones bikes. I think people forget about bikes being $10k. I remember in 2009 there were overstock 2008 CBR1000RR's selling for like $8500.

It's been real, folks.

EDIT: I didn't even see the horsepower numbers...if 200hp is accurate, that is laughable for $25k. Come on, man.

Exactly over stock 08's, powersports (big bikes in particular) have just never ever recovered from that heavy smack. The CBR1000 is still laughably under contented, GSX-R is closer to 10 years unchanged than not, R1 was how long in the tooth before yesterday...

 

[Bluesun]

So I just came across their horsepower claim here

Designed to be the ultimate motorcycle, the street-going Ninja H2 is based closely on the closed-course Ninja H2R. Powered by a 200 PS supercharged engine, it offers intense acceleration, superb high-speed riding potential, supersport-level handling performance, and a sensory experience surpassing anything that riders can find today.

200 PS is ~ 197 hp. Let me get this straight. Kawasaki slapped a supercharger on a modern 1000cc sportbike motor, built up hype about it for at (at least) 3 months, and it has no more horsepower than the top contenders, weighs over 500 lbs (granted those are wet numbers), and they want 25 thousand dollars for it. Is this an April fool's joke?

EDIT: The new Panigale 1299 is 205 hp. At $25k, what else are they trying to compete with? I've gone from disappointed to just flat out confused. I kinda doubt the Panigale will even be $25k, and it has superior suspension

 

[Bazza]

So I just came across their horsepower claim here

200 PS is ~ 197 hp. Let me get this straight. Kawasaki slapped a supercharger on a modern 1000cc sportbike motor, built up hype about it for at (at least) 3 months, and it has no more horsepower than the top contenders, weighs over 500 lbs (granted those are wet numbers), and they want 25 thousand dollars for it. Is this an April fool's joke?

EDIT: The new Panigale 1299 is 205 hp. At $25k, what else are they trying to compete with? I've gone from disappointed to just flat out confused.

Agreed, to a degree. The motor is clearly capable of 305 hp in the H2R, thats what has me most curious, what is the difference between the two engines? If its simply a state of tune then $25K + the cost of tune will ostensibly equal 300 bhp.

Thats becomes a much different conversation at that point IMO...

But yes otherwise, flat out baffling...

 

[ZX-14R_stealthrider]

for $25K I was expecting easily 250 hp, I don't see why there needs to be 100 hp between the H2 and H2R. What I'm most curious about is how available those 'extra' 100 horses are. If its simply a state of tune that one can easily unlock from a competent tuner I think $25K will sound like a bargain, $25K + cost of tune= 300 bhp. OK deal...

"H2/ENGINE & RIDER SUPPORT/
OVERVIEW

In order to be able to offer intense acceleration and a top speed in a range that most riders have never experienced, it was essential that the engine be able to produce big power. While a large displacement engine could easily provide a high engine output, to ensure a lightweight, compact overall package a compact engine was also desired. Using a supercharged engine enabled both of these engine design requirements to be met: the Ninja H2 has a maximum output of 200 PS and its engine size is on par with other supersport litre-class power units.

Aside from minor differences in the engine unit, and intake and exhaust systems tailored for street use to ensure it meets noise and emissions standards, the supercharged engine is essentially the same as the over 300 PS engine of the closed-course Ninja H2R, delivering an intense acceleration unlike anything you can experience on a naturally aspirated bike. Designed in-house, the immense potential of the highly compact, highly efficient engine is a testament to the technology possessed by the KHI Group." :nerd:

 

[Titan]

Aside from minor differences in the engine unit, and intake and exhaust systems tailored for street use to ensure it meets noise and emissions standards, the supercharged engine is essentially the same as the over 300 PS engine of the closed-course Ninja H2R, delivering an intense acceleration unlike anything you can experience on a naturally aspirated bike. Designed in-house, the immense potential of the highly compact, highly efficient engine is a testament to the technology possessed by the KHI Group."

This makes me think that the H2 at least deserves a test ride. I think Kawasaki may just be making it sound better than it is though. I'm not convinced that it is way better than its competitors, and it is quite a steep price point.

 

[Ryder]

I would be a good idea to add a poll to this to really see how many are for or against paying $25k for the H2.

 

[1krider]

I would be a good idea to add a poll to this to really see how many are for or against paying $25k for the H2.

Agreed.

This thread will continue for the DISCUSSION of price.


This thread will be for the POLL ONLY.

http://www.ninjah2.org/forum/ninja-.../2602-you-actually-buying-h2-street-$25k.html

 

[1krider]

for $25K I was expecting easily 250 hp, I don't see why there needs to be 100 hp between the H2 and H2R. What I'm most curious about is how available those 'extra' 100 horses are. If its simply a state of tune that one can easily unlock from a competent tuner I think $25K will sound like a bargain, $25K + cost of tune= 300 bhp. OK deal...

As of now I'm leaning a bit towards 1k's side of the garage...

As for the 2006 GSX-R thing, its not 2006 and it will never be 2006 again. That was the golden age of disposable income (ok credit, but who's counting), Powersports got smacked in 08-09 and have never recovered. Used market is so robust, incremental gains yearly mean new purchases have become near superfluous.

Dude, the prices don't make sense, period.
You should still be able to buy a bare bones 1000cc bike for near $10k.
Prices don't double in a few years. That's bullshit.
There is ZERO reason to pay more than $9,500 for a 2015 GSX-R 1000. It's no better of a bike than their 2005.

I don't care about any bullshit anyone wants to spew.
No one is getting MY money unless they can offer a reasonable package for a reasonable price.

 

[1krider]

You need $2500 DEPOSIT to get one. Tomorrow I will put Pic of my deposit.

How can you justify the $25k for the H2 ?????

YOu already have some high dollar toys, but WTF?
YOu must have no problem throwing money around or must have stupid money.

 

[OneArmBandit]

**** the $$$$ I am getting my H2 Gull flash and Different gearing on the supercharger odammmmmmmm. Custom Pipe Done by ? lol AKRAPOVIC.

 

[OneArmBandit]

How can you justify the $25k for the H2 ?????

YOu already have some high dollar toys, but WTF?
YOu must have no problem throwing money around or must have stupid money.

Its not about throwing money, its always about having the fastest bike out there, I was one of the first one to have the 2010 s1000rr, the bike was fast, then I wanted the 1199 panigale, the bike was okay, not that fast, if you consider 182 on a gps, so all I can say having the h2 reflashed and changing the gears on the super charger will definitely make me happy, keeping the throttle wide open, can wait to see the faces of people that owned worked stage 3 s1000 rr and zx10 as for having stupid money, money is only money, you have to do what makes you happy.Thanks OneArm

 

[OneArmBandit]

That's really unfortunate. Yea, I'm out as well. All of that hype.

Could not agree more about the need for bare bones bikes. I think people forget about bikes being $10k. I remember in 2009 there were overstock 2008 CBR1000RR's selling for like $8500.

It's been real, folks.

EDIT: I didn't even see the horsepower numbers...if 200hp is accurate, that is laughable for $25k. Come on, man.

shhhhhhh I was told it will have more than 200hp after the reflash.

 

[als 15 h2]

I sort of agree. I am a Zero to 100 Guy in both my Cars & Motorcycles or should I say Zero to the speed limit which is usually the case. I am not concerned about the top speed. Consequently, this is the bike for me. I am putting down a 2.5k deposit today in So Calif. I have been waiting for a Kawi that got me excited since I had a 1973 Z1 in 73. In fact I current have a 73 Z1 restored that I am probably going to sell.

 

[Bazza]

I sort of agree. I am a Zero to 100 Guy in both my Cars & Motorcycles or should I say Zero to the speed limit which is usually the case. I am not concerned about the top speed. Consequently, this is the bike for me. I am putting down a 2.5k deposit today in So Calif. I have been waiting for a Kawi that got me excited since I had a 1973 Z1 in 73. In fact I current have a 73 Z1 restored that I am probably going to sell.

congrats guy! You sounds EXACTLY like the target demo Kawasaki is seeking...

y'all remember a few years back when Camaro, Mustang and Challenger all went retro styling? The point then is the same as the point now, follow the money... (i.e who has it....)

 

[1krider]

I sort of agree. I am a Zero to 100 Guy in both my Cars & Motorcycles or should I say Zero to the speed limit which is usually the case. I am not concerned about the top speed. Consequently, this is the bike for me. I am putting down a 2.5k deposit today in So Calif. I have been waiting for a Kawi that got me excited since I had a 1973 Z1 in 73. In fact I current have a 73 Z1 restored that I am probably going to sell.

Nice. What other toys do you have? You must have a lot of disposable income you're willing to throw around to spend TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS on a sportbike. Good for you.

 

[als 15 h2]

Nice. What other toys do you have? You must have a lot of disposable income you're willing to throw around to spend TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS on a sportbike. Good for you.

I must be the 3rd vote. I placed a deposit of 2.5K with a Kawasaki dealer in Southern, Ca. Sorry, but I don't think its any of your business what other toys I have, if any. All you need to know is I am willing to pay 25k for the H2 & I guess you are not.

What I don't understand is why you are still on the forum with your BS-you think the H2 costs too much (so don't buy it), but your dissatisfaction with the price is not going to cause Kawasaki to reduce same. There are probably enough customers that think its worth 25k.

 

[als 15 h2]

Forgot to mention. My dealer said to expect a January 2015 Delivery.