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Where did all the 2017 Carbons go? Don't see many owners here. In fact how many H2's by year were ever sold? Anybody have the stats?
 

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I was told that they only imported 6 H2s into North America for 2108. I don't know if that included Carbons.
 

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There was only 6 to the UK, that leaves quite a few for Asia but there doesn't seem to be many members here with Carbons of any year.
As for the standard H2 there seems to be little information on production numbers or where they were shipped to.
If KHI don't do a 2019 production run then the value of the H2 will rise. Anybody asked a dealer why 2019 H2 is not being advertised?
 

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I think it was all about being able to introduce SC motorcycles to the public and show they were dependable. Now that the SX is out, they probably won't need to keep the H2 line going. Which is okay by me. Although no one here has an H2 so it is not like they are all over and we have the same bike as thousands of others.
 

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I think 6 H2 Carbons came to the UK for 2017. One was stolen and I'm not sure if it was ever found. We sold one locally and the owner is very happy with it and has turned down several offers to buy it off him !
 

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Your probably right Ted, the H2 is probably expensive for KHI to make and not many people have the $. The SX is more of a marketable bike and fly's the performance KHI flag to a bigger group even-though the only thing in common about the engine is it has a SC which is also different. I would like to buy an SX but I wouldn't sell my H2. Both would be good to have as they do different things.

Back to the original question, where did all the H2's go?

Another thing, it would be great if KHI made it's track only flash available, I'm sure they have one used during the bikes development. In-fact if they made the factory flash available it would be a positive marketing move rather than having owners publishing all the issues with aftermarket flashes. Those comments to some take that edge off the bike.
 

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Your probably right Ted, the H2 is probably expensive for KHI to make and not many people have the $. The SX is more of a marketable bike and fly's the performance KHI flag to a bigger group even-though the only thing in common about the engine is it has a SC which is also different. I would like to buy an SX but I wouldn't sell my H2. Both would be good to have as they do different things.

Back to the original question, where did all the H2's go?

Another thing, it would be great if KHI made it's track only flash available, I'm sure they have one used during the bikes development. In-fact if they made the factory flash available it would be a positive marketing move rather than having owners publishing all the issues with aftermarket flashes. Those comments to some take that edge off the bike.
What would be even better is a race mode. Give me the code for the ECU and we would have a race mode in days. Not to mention a way to change things without hooking up anything.
 

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KHI are probably so scared of EU regulations that even though R&D have it the management don't have the foresight or courage to make it available.
 

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2017 Carbon, 72/120 went to Indonesia . I wondered why not many owners of this version are not members here? I have 78/120.
 

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I would like some real numbers on how many H2 carbons were built each year! It's safe to assume 120 2017's but the 2018's such as mine in the attached picture were not numbered on the supercharger or anywhere that I know of like the 2017. It's really disappointing to me.
 

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I would like some real numbers on how many H2 carbons were built each year! It's safe to assume 120 2017's but the 2018's such as mine in the attached picture were not numbered on the supercharger or anywhere that I know of like the 2017. It's really disappointing to me.
For what it's worth, I'm willing to bet that a lot less 2018s were made. I agree that it is fun to know the actual production numbers though.
 

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@Ticketmaster.."or anywhere that I know of like the 2017"...look at the first page of your owner's manual...that stuck on bar code deal.Your bike build number is there.Lowest long set of numbers and letters.The last three.Unless that's been done away with...IDK.
 

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Hi, I got a 2018 Carbon, no its not numbered and very disappointed, looks like a normal one with a aftermarket fairing, also dissatisfied as this is a selling piece when it comes to resale.....so how will a future buyer or onlooker know its a carbon?... lot of extra money - here 8,000 euro more, thats like $10,000 over the normal carbon. Very unhappy but what can we do?..
 

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Don't worry, your carbon will have more interest as not many people brought them. You might get a premium when you sell it and somebody that has a choice is likely to by the carbon.
 

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Hi, I got a 2018 Carbon, no its not numbered and very disappointed, looks like a normal one with a aftermarket fairing, also dissatisfied as this is a selling piece when it comes to resale.....so how will a future buyer or onlooker know its a carbon?... lot of extra money - here 8,000 euro more, thats like $10,000 over the normal carbon. Very unhappy but what can we do?..
The 2018 Carbon is the only H2 (including H2Rs) to have the two-tone matte/mirror paint scheme.
 

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Hi, I got a 2018 Carbon, no its not numbered and very disappointed, looks like a normal one with a aftermarket fairing, also dissatisfied as this is a selling piece when it comes to resale.....so how will a future buyer or onlooker know its a carbon?... lot of extra money - here 8,000 euro more, thats like $10,000 over the normal carbon. Very unhappy but what can we do?..
I think many 2018 H2 Carbon owners are frustrated by not knowing exactly what number theirs is and how many of them were built since it was a "Limited Edition".:( Numbering badges on limited edition vehicles have been pretty standard for years. Kawasaki numbering the 2017's but not the 2018's is even more frustrating especially to those such as myself who bought the "Limited Edition" carbon for the rarity.:eek:

The lack of involvement on this forum from Kawasaki is also disappointing.:crying:Hopefully this will change in the future. Understandably there is a lot of information they would rather not divulge.>:D However there is a lot they could share without a negative impact.

I don't want my criticism of SOME of Kawasaki's practices in regards to the Carbon to be all you hear from me. They deserve credit where it is due. The carbon fairing quality is top notch! The looks of it and the way they tied it in with the rest of the paint scheme is AMAZING! In my experience from years of seeing aftermarket carbon fiber pieces for both cars and motorcycles most of it is nowhere near the look, fit, and overall quality of what Kawasaki produced for the H2 Carbon. Only the best of the aftermarket stuff is comparable and it isn't cheap either! So I don't think it's fair to say "it looks like a normal one with a aftermarket fairing".

On paper at first glance the $3000 dollar price difference here in the US is significant but when you consider the total cost of the bike and just how good the carbon looks...I would have paid the extra for the carbon even if not for the rarity, just for the look. With everything else on this bike being so above and beyond it is my strong opinion that the carbon fairing looks like it belongs on the H2 especially when following the look of the H2R.
 

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For what it's worth, I'm willing to bet that a lot less 2018s were made. I agree that it is fun to know the actual production numbers though.
I disagree and here is why. The carbon look is very popular this day in age especially in high end cars and motorcycles so it seems fitting for a motorcycle of the H2's caliber. I'm sure Kawasaki could have easily sold WAY more than 120 Carbon units worldwide in both 2017 and 2018. I myself put down the deposit for a 2017 H2 Carbon during the order period. My dealer spent hours emailing and calling Kawasaki and doing everything in their power to get me one. With sadness and disappointment they wound up refunding my deposit. The day the order period started for 2018's came I placed my order and left the deposit again. I doubt I was the only person who tried to buy a 2017 H2 here in the US and was unable to. I'm sure people in other countries tried to as well and were unable to.

There is very little for Kawasaki to gain by vastly limiting the number of a specific motorcycle built. There is the buzz and hype, but that is limited in how much it will help future business at the expense of current sales. From a business standpoint you want to supply as close to the exact number as there is a demand for without going over. The more of that exact motorcycle you can build and actually sell the less it costs per unit to build and in turn the more profitable it becomes. Kawasaki's focus is on how many motorcycles they can sell that model year. What it's worth because of it's rarity in the future doesn't really matter.

So I'm sure Kawasaki chose not to number them in 2018 to prevent limiting potential sales. It made sense for them to build as many as people ordered. Now the million dollar question is just what is that number:confused:
 
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