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post #11 of 20 Old 11-27-2014, 07:29 PM
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It's possible that 'miss' or whatever it is(was)is the KTRC kicking in.We don't really know what that guy had her set on...I can take a guess looking at the run...Kawasaki probably told him..."just do what we say here".....I DOUBT he had all the electronic stops pulled...seeing how one crash would be pretty poor PR for a bike supposed to be "Beyond Belief"...At the point of that Suzuka Trial and all...most likely NO ONE knew exactly what this bike was gonna really do...aside from hauling assNot to mention the Launch control and all....you see him loft several times...one of em didn't appear to be totally plannedLOL!!!That's what it looked like to me anyway.No Way was that bike even NEAR it's real capabilities at Suzuka.



"These vids are of pre-prod bikes so we can assume that the fueling maps are becoming more refined as we go"...I would agree with most of that...BUT....I don't believe they would(will)have any 'problems' fueling this bike correctly(from the first bikes...whether H2R's or H2's)....I mean...like having it stutter or something.I think that stutter was the electronics doing what they're supposed to do for how they MAY have been set....


Bazza Said..."Yes but without knowing what your feeling/seeing/hearing how will you know what your feeling/seeing/hearing"....exactly.And we DON'T know what the bike was set to for that Demo.I've ridden my 14R with the Ktrc on 1,or even 2 once or twice...it can seem like it's having a fueling problem...depending... but it isn't.It's Ktrc working.And not just 'off the line' either.I have a brilliant flash in my 14R...there are NO fueling issues with it at all...so that Ktrc will intercede at certain times...I normally ride with it off because of that.

The 14R has 3 KTRC settings(as ya'll know)...the H2....9.That's a lot of parameters going on....probably EASILY reached with this birdI would imagine THIS baby can spin the rear at almost any point in the RPM range...any speed...any gear.Gonna be SWEET!!!LOL!



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I'm totally stoked that us who've taken the next step to own one of these are gonna actually be able to R&D these awesome bikes.These aren't the Panagales...or R1's..or anything else out there...these are totally unique and different bikes...gonna be a blast getting to know em...big thumbs up to all...it's gonna be a GREAT new year



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Ya know SilverBird you could actually be exactly right!

If anyone feels like it look up the first track video of the R and as it zooms off you can hear it missing for just a second before they cut to a different scene. I assumed it was a fueling issue but you could be right on the money, it could be that the ECU saw the rear spinning-up and pulled one cylinder momentarily.

I like your answer better! This guy riding was Toye or someone good and even he had trouble managing the power so anyone on this board (with due respect) saying that they will turn off the electronic safety-nannies is just fooling themselves.
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I'm totally stoked that us who've taken the next step to own one of these are gonna actually be able to R&D these awesome bikes.These aren't the Panagales...or R1's..or anything else out there...these are totally unique and different bikes...gonna be a blast getting to know em...big thumbs up to all...it's gonna be a GREAT new year
Seeing how these bike perform it the hands of owners is what interests me, seeing what issues may come out, how going about dealing with those issues go, etc.

Hopefully it doesn't turn out being a disaster, I have faith in Kawi.
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After seeing the mods Gadson has already done to his, it's going to be cool to
see all the mods that are going to evolve over time.

I agree, these bikes are special and unique...

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That it will.
Finally we're experiencing one of the more exciting times of Kawi bike production
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No real direct competition for the H2, the Aprilia or BMW will probably smoke it on a race track. With some traction work, it might compete with the Busa or ZX14 at the drag strip.
My guess is most 600's will out run it on twisty streets. The bike however, should be way cool on bike nights though, as a limited production bike, it will always stick out. Once we get familiar with it's handling, 1/4 mile and top speed, then it will actually earn some respect.
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No real direct competition for the H2, the Aprilia or BMW will probably smoke it on a race track. With some traction work, it might compete with the Busa or ZX14 at the drag strip.
My guess is most 600's will out run it on twisty streets. The bike however, should be way cool on bike nights though, as a limited production bike, it will always stick out. Once we get familiar with it's handling, 1/4 mile and top speed, then it will actually earn some respect.
I dunno man, H2 is still relatively compact wheelbase wise, yea its heavier so theres a bit more effort lugging it side to side, but that shouldn't be a problem for a good fit rider.

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With this kind of torque just steer it with the throttle.
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With this kind of torque just steer it with the throttle.


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