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May 17, 2016 ∑ #41
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I hope someday you get the opportunity to ride an H2R so you can see just how incorrect that statement is. Its also not a nice thing to say to the wonderful engineers at Kawasaki who worked so hard over the years making the H2 and H2R so very special. If you think they've wasted their time you should let them know. Customer feedback is important.


What did H2IK say that was "not a nice thing to say"? Or "incorrect"?

H2IK "WILL enjoy my 300hp H2 on the road every day and I will also enjoy the $20,000 I saved while having the same performance."

I don't see anything wrong w/ that, A LOT of us agree & it's just a personal opinion based on the individual. Fact is it's not something you can enjoy as much or all the time, the H2R, is not street legal. If I owned one I'd be lucky to use it 4 times a year.... Flashed the Stage II H2 will make the same or more power as a stock H2R, it's just as quick if not faster and $20,000 less. I don't think he was insulting anyone.
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Let us know when you reach that 300hp figure.


Let us know when you do
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I love how people get all caught up in the d*ck-swinging contests that dyno numbers can start.

The bike we brought to Mojave would barely bust 250 RWHP (SAE scale) on the Sport Rider dyno before we loaded it up. What did we do? Pout...cry... start chewing our nails? Nah, we went out and blew more records out of the water. We had no doubt that Kawasaki engineers did their job with the bike, and that our parts/tune-up from the Ohio mile would work just as well in the desert. It's a stock bike - just bolt-on and go, it will do the rest as long as we have a good rider. Kent is one of the best, so it's all good.

Our 226.9 MPH time ticket trumps what the dyno says is 'fast' any day of the week.

At the end of the day, it's all about the FUN these machines bring to our world - that's why we own them... don't stress over the absolutes

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The H2R makes north of 320 horsepower. Fast Bikes corrected their numbers and were the ones who discovered the dyno requirements to get the correct numbers. Kevin Duke at motorcycle.com was using Ricky's ECU for their dyno pulls so its no wonder why their figures were low. Each H2R is dyno'd at the factory to make sure they're up to par. We have unit #36 which was the first H2R in the US. It made 326 horsepower on the dyno and it was even running a bit rich.

Rest assured KawiH2R, your bike is making 320+. If you did not get the dyno sheet, look at the MCO. They put the power output on it as a requirement in both HP and PS. If it makes less than that on a dyno where you are either check your fuel or find another dyno.
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Mechanical differences are
camrods
Fuel pump
A bit bigger air intake because it has no headlamp.
And ecu map less restricted factory wise

Dudes here are pushing 300+hp to wheel with sc gears, fuel pump, intercooler, flash n tune.
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I’m not looking to push that much hp.. no desire to.
Already have a 300+ busa and it’s so uncontrollable it’s hard to ride because of how conscious you have to be about opening up the
Throttle.

That aside
Dude with 300hp on h2 don’t run H2r exhaust...

And dudes who run 240ish hp don’t run H2r exhaust.

So looking to see what the input by those with 240+rwhp, on the hole in the packing.

Will it just be a one time thing?
Will it eventually just spit the rest out?
Is it a break in problem?
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In here it clearly states stock H2r is same or weaker then a stage 2 h2
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In here it clearly states stock H2r is same or weaker then a stage 2 h2
stock h2r? In your opinion what else can be done performance wise to an h2r to make it not stock?. Also whats a "stage 2" h2 consist of?
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I’m not looking to push that much hp.. no desire to.
Already have a 300+ busa and it’s so uncontrollable it’s hard to ride because of how conscious you have to be about opening up the
Throttle.

That aside
Dude with 300hp on h2 don’t run H2r exhaust...

And dudes who run 240ish hp don’t run H2r exhaust.

So looking to see what the input by those with 240+rwhp, on the hole in the packing.

Will it just be a one time thing?
Will it eventually just spit the rest out?
Is it a break in problem?
the brocks full system with a slash cut or a different one is most peoples go too i think, mines just got the stage 2 package from brock and the exhaust sounds extremely refined, loud, sharp and tuned. Decel popping and fluttering, "nothing flying out of the pipe in pieces on fire". And its half the price of vandemon or at least much better.
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a stock H2R is as said..320 something HP.STOCK.There are ZERO H2's that are approaching that number.With a flash,pipe,and tune.OR sc gears.
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a stock H2R is as said..320 something HP.STOCK.There are ZERO H2's that are approaching that number.With a flash,pipe,and tune.OR sc gears.
There are a couple of people on the forum
That would differ with you on that since they own the proof an h2 can do those numbers.

This has been said in another post already with graphs and everything
But
the H2r cams give less hp mid range then the reg h2 cams but give more hp on the top end.
So if the h2 has 150hp in mid range the H2r has about 140hp.
But when the h2 climbs to 14k rpm it will stop at around 240-60 while the H2r could make more because the cams allow for a greater opening of the valves.
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a stock H2R is as said..320 something HP.STOCK.There are ZERO H2's that are approaching that number.With a flash,pipe,and tune.OR sc gears.
In the chat posted by Ryan someone dynoed and compared and contrasted this debate.
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I’m not looking to push that much hp.. no desire to.
Already have a 300+ busa and it’s so uncontrollable it’s hard to ride because of how conscious you have to be about opening up the
Throttle.

That aside
Dude with 300hp on h2 don’t run H2r exhaust...

And dudes who run 240ish hp don’t run H2r exhaust.

So looking to see what the input by those with 240+rwhp, on the hole in the packing.

Will it just be a one time thing?
Will it eventually just spit the rest out?
Is it a break in problem?
the brocks full system with a slash cut or a different one is most peoples go too i think, mines just got the stage 2 package from brock and the exhaust sounds extremely refined, loud, sharp and tuned. Decel popping and fluttering, "nothing flying out of the pipe in pieces on fire". And its half the price of vandemon or at least much better.
So far I can’t argue with you there since I got this little problem, unless someone says it’s not a problem and rock on
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