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12-22-2018 06:53 PM
h2madness! "Race Display".Okay.If one guy can only use 'race display' to get the results,then what's the other guy using?See what I mean.I guess I'm just partial to Don.No 'catches'.No odd trade offs.Just seems strange Woolrich has had a bunch of H2's,and yet 'can't' figure out how to derestrict a display without disabling other stuff.
12-22-2018 02:54 PM
WR-NA Already been over this with you...
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If Don Guhl can open up the top speed mph display,why can't woolrich?Just a matter of checking boxes...right?
Because the person behind the scenes who does all of Guhl's hacking of ECUs and writes his software for him does it differently from Woolich (not Woolrich). They both do the same thing in a limited scope: dump ECU contents, disassemble ECU dump, define tables in their respective softwares to accomplish the same thing but through different means. How one may write custom assembly code is going to vary from how another writes the custom assembly code needed to accomplish the same thing. Just as there are more than one tool to accomplish the same job, or more than two ways to say the same thing, two people will have different signatures/hand writing styles. So Guhl's software guy, Marlin Bially, "writes" differently than Woolich's software guy, Justin Woolich.

Woolich can open up the top speed display, it's called "Race Display"* in their software. Only with the "*", by enabling that, it disables other functions (horn, turn signals and high beam) as a byproduct. Woolich needs another test bike for more than the short amount of time they had the first one. The first time round the owner needed the bike back and they couldn't give them the time needed to fully test/refine in the short amount of time they had the bike to develop the features people were requesting. I personally don't see what the big deal is in eliminating the speed display limit... especially since a lot of people on here, YouTube, Facebook, etc are so quick to point at the margin of error in the speedo when people brag online about how fast they went.
12-22-2018 11:03 AM
h2madness! hmm.okay.So Don Guhl goes in there,same ECU's...clicks a box or whatever and voila!Top Speed readout enabled.Sounds a bit like Mr Woolrich is possibly missing how to enable this without changing other lamp functions.Or perhaps Don has to go in and make sure the lamp functions are enabled after the speedo display?If Don can do it,Mr W can do it.I would think.How hard can it really be?This really sounds koo koo.They both can open up the ecu programming and see what's there.
12-22-2018 06:36 AM
Richarddps19 I heard woolich
When you disable speed limit
U disable
High beams
Horn
Turn signals ???
11-30-2018 01:12 PM
Brianmurphy84 just an update on top speed limit. i sorta tried to hijack this thread....lol. my bike was back at tuner for another tweak lowered fan temps raised rev limit and he checked top speed limit . on woolich you unselect box to switch off limit he had this done he says that speedo will just freeze at 189. this is what my 2016 R1 does also 😞
11-19-2018 12:13 PM
Olajoe808
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Not sure how your comment was meant, but I understand about different tyre profiles. I was making comment on how the tyre profile may change the speedo reading dependent on the method of detecting the bike speed in the first place. It was interesting to read on the Ducati Panigale's that they apparently have the technology to enter a new tyre profile in regard to utlimate circumference and cause it to adjust the speedo reading. Unless I have not read that right?

Don.
Hello Don:

I don't know what it is that compells me to say this but you must be some sort of detective? The whole question and answer thing that's some powerful stuff. I wonder what it's like to paid for the high speed chases rather than to be taxed for doing it? That's gotta be a blast. IF this is the case, thank you for your service. If not, well I hope I'm saying this right Gday to ya ozzie wanker! Oh and cheers! Now if that is not the correct way it is properly used in all fairness well I didn't know.

Oh and hey is that a Zx12r in your avatar. So sad there there's no place alive on the interwebs to even talk about it. pathetic really, didn't the 12 have a huge reputation? Now that people can't really give them away it's really proven to be an exception value. Well, it really is the best bang for your buck when that's what they're going for. Is that occhilupo bloke still going, reall shredder back then.

Hey it's first warm day since I can remember, plus the snow and ice is melted means it's ride time. Gotta get some. TTYL
11-19-2018 11:56 AM
Olajoe808
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An H2 as a first bike?? Absolutely not. And here is the reason I say that. I was a factory trained motorcycle mechanic for many years, working at dealerships. I have seen beginning riders get powerful bikes and wad them up and more than once come back in a coffin. The H2 bone stock will test the ability of a seasoned rider, much less the novice. Having ridden bikes for 50 years and even owned a 73 H2 triple (bought it new) and have owned all the big Ninjas since 85 (except the zx14) the H2 opened my eyes big time. The snatchy throttle alone could take the novice by surprise and make them panic mid turn. Not to mention the the thing wheeling when just mildly passing a car. It takes time to become accustom to riding a bike, it is not like a car. There are rules that a novice just doesn't understand even after a riding school.

Rotating tires??? Do you mean getting different ones?
Winter tires. oh oh, yea i don't see that mentioned very often. I'm guessing most ride with the same tire regardless of the season? Winter time here I don't see riders out well maybe a couple on the sunny days so there's not a lot of exchange of that sort of info. Plus this year i picked up a gerbinger setup hopefully i got that right.
11-19-2018 06:01 AM
H2015
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Great stuff there sir. You'd think by time the amount of cash is dropped on a joy ride like this you sort know what you are getting into hopefully looking before leaping so to speak.
Not sure how your comment was meant, but I understand about different tyre profiles. I was making comment on how the tyre profile may change the speedo reading dependent on the method of detecting the bike speed in the first place. It was interesting to read on the Ducati Panigale's that they apparently have the technology to enter a new tyre profile in regard to utlimate circumference and cause it to adjust the speedo reading. Unless I have not read that right?

Don.
11-19-2018 01:25 AM
Rick150 It's ok, sometimes I forget the skills I need to ride the H2, probably wake up call for me riding the Niken and it's considered a quick bike with snatchy throttle. Our definition of fast is quite a bit different than other riders. There is nothing like riding a normal fast bike to put things in perspective and H2 owners should do it once and a while.
11-19-2018 12:57 AM
h2madness! Well,I'm an optimist.Probably in this case,I should be a realist?I do agree...The h2 is too much for a first rider.I guess I'm putting my reactions and all into someone else.They probably aren't gonna feel very confident at all.So yeah,mind changed.No H2 for a beginner.Thanks.
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