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11-14-2014 08:50 PM
OneArmBandit
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Originally Posted by Fretka View Post
Are you REALLY asking how Kaw dealt with increased intake temps? If you look closely at the published info you can clearly see how they have done so.

I have no interest in getting into a pissing match with you or anyone else, but listen and learn.
11-14-2014 01:46 PM
Fretka
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Originally Posted by 1krider View Post
I never said they made a mistake.
As a ZX10 owner, I have faith in Kawi.
I am simply asking how they are dealing with the increased intake temps that the supercharger will produce.
Are you REALLY asking how Kaw dealt with increased intake temps? If you look closely at the published info you can clearly see how they have done so.

I have no interest in getting into a pissing match with you or anyone else, but listen and learn.
11-11-2014 07:48 PM
1krider Apparently I'm not the only one who has a clue about intercooling on the internet:

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Robert Evans Jr says:
November 11, 2014 at 3:23 PM
The whole time I look at it I think “where is the intercooler?” The supercharger will heatsoak the intake charge relatively quickly and the power will drop off in dramatic fashion. I understand packaging is incredibly difficult, but man that seems like an oversight in a chase to get a huge number for a very limited amount of time.
10-27-2014 05:18 PM
Bluesun
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Originally Posted by FrenchFried View Post
Oh so more air does not equal more cooling, and stagnant air cools better than moving air right? RIGHT?

And the fact is you still haven't provided us with an explanation why Kawasaki is wrong. I'm speculating and in fact quite curious, you're trying to swing your dick around and offering little to further the discussion...
I think you're misconstruing a couple of things. "More air" in the context of say, an intercooler or a radiator, where the air is actively pulling heat away from something definitely translates into "cooler". Obvious examples are bigger and more open intercoolers and radiators being capable of dissipating more heat.

"More air" in the context of intake to an engine (forced induction or not) doesn't have really anything to do with cooling it down. The engine will only intake a set volume of air, regardless of outside airflow. Faster moving air is not cooler air. Forced induction (be it superchargers or turbos) generates heat between the charger and the engine (compressing air generates heat) and is independent of how fast the air coming into the intake is moving.

One of the problems with forced induction related to this fact is that the more you compress air, the hotter it ends up being when it reaches the combustion chamber, which could lead to premature ignition of the fuel ("detonation"), which is bad for lots of reasons. This is the problem that intercoolers help solve, by providing a radiator (aka intercooler) for the compressed air to release heat into the surrounding, outside air.

*As I understand it, I am not a tuner or expert*
10-27-2014 02:59 PM
NinJAHfu
10-27-2014 01:23 PM
FrenchFried
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Originally Posted by 1krider View Post
You got called out on your bullshit.
Stop Backpeddling.

The fact is, we were talking about cooling the air after it's heated by the supercharger and you were talking out of your ass because you don't understand forced induction.
On top of that, you sarcastically call me "brilliant", making you look like a complete idiot.
Oh so more air does not equal more cooling, and stagnant air cools better than moving air right? RIGHT?

And the fact is you still haven't provided us with an explanation why Kawasaki is wrong. I'm speculating and in fact quite curious, you're trying to swing your dick around and offering little to further the discussion...
10-27-2014 12:00 PM
1krider
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Originally Posted by FrenchFried View Post
more air=more cooling, moving air dissipates heat faster than stagnant air. Why do you think I said essentially
You got called out on your bullshit.
Stop Backpeddling.

The fact is, we were talking about cooling the air after it's heated by the supercharger and you were talking out of your ass because you don't understand forced induction.
On top of that, you sarcastically call me "brilliant", making you look like a complete idiot.
10-27-2014 10:54 AM
FrenchFried more air=more cooling, moving air dissipates heat faster than stagnant air. Why do you think I said essentially
10-25-2014 12:56 PM
Juggernaut I also don't think that just because you are at speed the air is cooler. There is a difference between the temperature of the air and wind chill.
10-24-2014 11:58 PM
1krider
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Originally Posted by FrenchFried View Post
Enlighten us to all the mistakes Kawasaki engineers have made.... we get it you're brilliant....
I never said they made a mistake.
As a ZX10 owner, I have faith in Kawi.
I am simply asking how they are dealing with the increased intake temps that the supercharger will produce.
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